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Posted: 12 May 2010 at 10:33 | IP Logged Quote Petemac

Is great news. Now what happens if they do a really great job together? Who do we vote for next time? 

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We are in for around (minimum) five years of extreme austerity measures.

But that's not Camerons fault. But you can bet your bottom dollar labour will whinge like bug-gery at the measures that HAVE to be implemented no matter who won the election.
Then when the next general election comes around and this country is finally getting back on track the "Labour Spin" will go into overdrive about how they will ease all the economic measures if they get in power.

And of course the brain-deads will vote them back in.


So when we just recovering they go and spend all the dosh again...........

Rinse & Repeat.


This post makes me sound like a Tory but I'm neither mainstream party.
I am 49 years old and see through all the bull both parties spout.
Both parties have absolute proven track records of absolute calamity even without the High Treason bit.


This election was a real eye opener for me.
I honestly believed it would be between the Lib-Dems & UkIp.
I really couldn't believe anyone would be foolish enough to vote for a shower of sh1t.

Well, they did. Just a different flavour. And I remember the taste of that flavour all too well.

Well... I guess the result we got is the best of a bad choice. Hopefully we will get electoral reform of some watered down description at the very least.

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Posted: 12 May 2010 at 15:32 | IP Logged Quote Colgrin

Of course cameron isn’t responsible any more than brown is, not personally, the fault lies with their political ideology and their willing participation and thus they have to share the burden of responsibility.

Labour and the tories, (well labour have been mesmorised, the tories ARE the city) have been in thrall to the rich boys as the UK abandons any pretense of being a manufacturing nation into a nation that “makes” money from shifting money around. Why bother making stuff when you can make a packet in speculating in derivatives.

If labour have any sense they WILL whinge like b*ggery about the austerity measures. If they play it right they can tap into the seething anger at the governments’ both past and present, willingness to let the bankers loot the country and we pay for it. That’s assuming that they can ditch the legacy of blair and brown and re-affirm their commitment to their core values, but I very much doubt it.

“The number of billionaires has risen from 43 to 53, with nine seeing their wealth rise by £1 billion or more during the past 12 months.

Philip Beresford, compiler of the list, said: “The rich have come through the recession with flying colours. The stock market is up, the hedge funds are coining it. The rich are doing very nicely.

“The rest of the country is going to have to face public spending cuts, but it has little effect on the rich because they don’t consume public services.”

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/specials/rich _list/article7107299.ece

Instead of cutting public services why not look at :

£5 billion every year rail subsidies. Why the f**k are we spending more than it cost us when it was nationalised to prop up a “privatised” rail network.

PFI costs us £8.4 billion every year in extra financing costs and services.

Tighten up tax loopholes could net us at least £25 billion a year. Some say it could be as much as £80 billion. That means telling the likes of ashcroft that they have to decide where they live; if it’s the uk then get him to pay his taxes properly like everyone else or tell him to f**k off. If he decides it’s not the uk then tell him to f**k off, rescind his passport,or both. We can not just put up with cheats like him.

£2.5 billion per year in Afghanistan

£1 billion per year in Iraq

I don’t call that looking after our economy.

None of the main parties made any mention of any of this. So, in the debates they stood there with all this info out there, and had the gall to compete with each other boasting by how much they demand that the poor get screwed so that their rich mates can buy their next yacht, and they can carry on bombing the crap out of Arabs.

It would be laughable if it wasn’t so obscene!

So until some drastic changes are made when the parties actually decide to represent the people they urge to elect them - like outlawing party contributions above, say a fiver; any political contributions having to go into a central pot and / or outlawing lobbying, let the vested interest vote like everyone else, not to mention changes in how we vote - we will live in perpetuity of each party sl*gging off the other, knowing full well that if they were in power they’d do f**k all about it themselves.


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Posted: 12 May 2010 at 21:24 | IP Logged Quote the nobz

Colgrin, you are perfectly correct regarding these outrages.

Here's a step forward:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/may/12/banks-fear-sh akeup-conservative-lib-dem

What the hell is going on here? I'm enthusiastic about the Guardian's editorial!




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Posted: 13 May 2010 at 20:30 | IP Logged Quote blip

Sorry nobz, your above click's not working.

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Posted: 14 May 2010 at 09:45 | IP Logged Quote Outcast

C'mon Blip, you can see the gap in the url just the same as I can.

Anyway, for those that can't.... Click me


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Posted: 14 May 2010 at 13:11 | IP Logged Quote blip

Ta O. At last with Vince at the helm, we're gonna start getting something bloody done about the banks to stop them playing with our money.

Wether we're gonna get thanks at the end of 5 years when everything won't look quite as bad as before, let's face it, will still feel like another half mountain to climb. Wether the new nation of voters by then will appreciate the efforts? I don't know. But at the mo I know at least we're in the safest of hands.

 



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Posted: 14 May 2010 at 13:33 | IP Logged Quote Colgrin

blip wrote:

Ta O. At last with Vince at the helm, we're gonna start getting something bloody done about the banks to stop them playing with our money.




"...in June 1999, speaking in a Commons debate on the Financial Services and Markets Bill, Cable endorsed "the liberal market"approach to the regulation of financial services. "No one," he said, "is arguing for an increasingly severe, more onerous and dirigiste system of regulation." Any regulation, he said, should be "done on a light-touch basis"."

http://www.newstatesman.com/uk-politics/2009/09/mehdi-hasan

"In 2006, addressing the spring lunch of the Association of Foreign Banks in London, he praised the City’s achievements and warned of the dangers of “the current clamour for regulation of financial products”. He favoured “a lighter touch”, he said, for City regulation. "

"Cable was a prominent contributor in 2004 to the Lib Dems' pro-market Orange Book, which advocated introducing a US-style private health insurance scheme to replace the National Health Service. (Who says Daniel Hannan speaks for right-wing Tories only?)"

[http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article7107298.ece]

If I were you, I wouldn't hold my breathe!

Just don't ask him about Shell and Saro-Wiwa!

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I have to admit I'm pleased that I.D cards have been scrapped and they are (Claim) going to stop persecuting motorists.

Also cutting back on the "Surveillance society"

Those 3 issues are pretty important to me.

Of course whether it happens or not is another thing, but I will gladly eat humble pie if they follow through with those plans.


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Posted: 14 May 2010 at 14:54 | IP Logged Quote blip

Col, I think you're missing the point on the dichotomy aspects of his previous announcements.

The 'light touch' regading speculative investment banking and the enticements for further similar international companies to establish themselves here is reasonable for the UK success and economy.  

But the complete seperation from the above and resorting back to the style of to normal mortgage and small business lending banking untainted from the more unfettered casino style is underway.

Under Vince, the two will never mix as before. So those that want to gamble will still be able to do so with only those particular banks, and those of the majority of us that simply want a more secure ordinary peoples style bank will be able to function too. The two will now be made totally seperate and diverse in their functions. Though the choices, of course, for people will remain intact.



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