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Posted: 24 April 2010 at 10:43 | IP Logged Quote the nobz

Elsie, quite the contrary, how has he protected us given the dreadful mess we are in?  








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Posted: 25 April 2010 at 09:45 | IP Logged Quote Outcast

And what do the Lib-Dems have in store for Motorists ?

As a Long Distance Trucker I can assure you all that it's chaos out there at night (when the roadworks are happening).

But here's a strange thing.... those roadworks Are NOT on the road, they are at the side of the road.

Road pricing (Pay by mile) infrastructure is already going in.

So lets analyse

1: Tories introduce Fuel Escalator <--- Gee thanks
2: Labour putting in Pay by mile infrastucture <---Gee²
3: Lib-Dems admit they will utilise that infrastructure <---- Gee³

So if you drive your car then you can expect your wallet/purse to be raped to the max.

As far as putting everything back on the rails...
It came off the rails for a very good reason.

Ask Bessie Langdon *how she like her fresh farm eggs sitting in a rail siding for 3 days whilst they built up a full train load. Naturally when her customers (finally) received  the product they rejected it but do you think the Railways held their hands up and cough like they knew they should ?

And how many rail sidings will have to go in ?
Rail sidings mean more level crossings so more delay for car drivers.

But that doesn't matter as they are going to penalise your sorry butts out of your cars anyway.

* Not that you can, she passed away a long time ago, but I have an excellent book called "Thinking about Transport" -  The story of Langdons. If anyone wants an interesting read.


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Posted: 25 April 2010 at 13:16 | IP Logged Quote the nobz

Absolutely, there's no difference between the LibLabCon elements of the single party Parliament on this or many other things for that matter.  And I for one will not fall for the current cult of personality.  


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Posted: 26 April 2010 at 08:39 | IP Logged Quote Elsie

Sadly though, David Cameron comes over as one of the most unlikeable personalities I've ever seen.

We can all feel the weight of impending economic disaster, but I don't see how society is going to weather the cuts and deprivations of a smugly self-serving Conservative Government with no empathy.

Please feel free to explain something about the way forward (Economics) nobz. Because I just don't understand it at all.


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Posted: 26 April 2010 at 16:13 | IP Logged Quote the nobz

The fact of the matter is that there will have to be cuts.  It matters not which colour of Government we get I think they all know this.

There also needs to be a review of the burden of regulation across the whole country which requires the huge public sector to monitor and enforce, quangos need to be systematically reviewed for value for money and closure if there is no case for their continued existence.

Tax needs to be reduced, freedom to expand and encouragement to train and retain employees who add value needs to be a priority.

Education needs to be reviewed in order to provide the skills for the future business areas in the economy.  We are strong in biotech and engineering, IT  and should be stronger in agriculture.  Education needs to be tailored towards providing a strong skills base for these industries.

In fact the structuring of the UK economy needs tipping on its head to move the emphasis away from public spending to providing a basis for the private sector to flourish.

There need to be tax cuts and if that means the loss of bureaucratic back office departments in the public services and quangos disappear then so be it, so long as the promises to maintain the front lines holds strong.

This economy has been goverened like the household that has gone wild with a credit card and lived way beyond its means and now reality is setting in. 

On the back of this there are the markets who are dealing with the bonds that have been issued in order to generate the money to pump into the UK economy over the period of the crisis.  I guess they could be considered the silent voter in the coming months who will no doubt respond depending on how robust the Government's plan is in dealing with the public sector debt issue.


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Posted: 26 April 2010 at 18:07 | IP Logged Quote Colgrin

The idea that businesses are over-taxed is laughable, our corporation tax is the lowest in Europe and amongst the lowest of the advanced industrial nations.

How is it that over taxed, over burdened Germany is, or was until China overtook, the world leading exporting nation. Look at how airbus has to cope with excessive French governmental interference and yet competes favourably with Boeing (well the fact that Boeing wouldm't exist without government interference is another matter.

Problems with this country as regards it's technical industry are more institutional rather than tax.

You are correct about the quangos, however since they can be a lucrative retirement fund for aging or has-been MPs means that nothing is going to happen to them.

Also, I love the idea that all of the main parties are outcompeting each other in how they're going to out cut each other. I mean the banking system brought this country to it's knees, got a blank cheque with no attempt to get the bankers to change their ways. It's like you going to your bank saying you want an extension of your loan because you've just s***ked it all on a horse, and the bank just hands over more money with no requirement that you reign in your stupidity.

Only with the bailout that we the taxpayer will have to fund the bailout. The city screwed the taxpayer over and now the taxpayer is going o foot the bill. Thanks Gordo!

Trebles all round!

If we're going to "pull ou socks up" to get ourselves out of this mess then the burden should be appropiately burdened. That means the government reigning in the city, constrainging is's fetish for over-optimistic and risky trading - with other people's money!

After all, i thought we were suppoesed to be in it together

But then, labour haven't got the balls, the tories are full of bankers anyway, and the libdems are well, the lib dems.

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Posted: 26 April 2010 at 19:04 | IP Logged Quote blip

Only Vince and Clegg have voiced that by their policies, they will immediately revert the banks and building societies to resort to their former straight lending procedures, with the BoE back ensuring that no future casino type gambling with our personal money will ever happen again.

Now that to me sounds like a powerful promise for a start off.  

Nevermind the additional savings on ending the continuation of the old insane coldwar based tridant system. We're no longer in a situation where we need to blow-up millions in major cities at a time with nuclear missiles. We have to adapt to be more clinical in our strikes using small precise conventional weaponry to take out the escalating terrorist threats gathething smaller dirty bomb technology. most of our own military generals have proposed we have to adapt this way leaving greater money for our frontline forces too. But the old 2 parties obviously remain with the residue of promised financial interests connections with known military hardware industires to which many have subscribed to and still belong to to line their own back pockets. It's sick. 

Let's get real.



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Posted: 26 April 2010 at 19:30 | IP Logged Quote the nobz

Blip, scrapping trident will not solve the public sector debt issue alone and nor will reforming the banks. 
The banks have caused the damage and will be reformed one way or another, but none of that will deal with the debt.  What do they propose to do about that?  As they are the current talk of the hour its about time they spelled it out.

What do Clegg and co propose to do about this situation:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/libby_pu rves/article7107887.ece


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Posted: 26 April 2010 at 20:17 | IP Logged Quote blip

nobz says "The banks have caused the damage and will be reformed one way or another". I'm not hanging my hopes on indefintes like "one way or another", but on the more concrete proposals of the Lib Dems, which at least will ensure prevention of normal banks who deal with normal everyday folk and normal everyday businesses who employ normal everyday folk, to in future deal with them respectfully, eliminating any possibilities of venturing into the unknowns of future casino type investments. The other 2 haven't gone so far with their assurances to do the same. So you make of it what you will. 

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Posted: 26 April 2010 at 21:14 | IP Logged Quote the nobz

Yes the banks. But what will they do about the debt? 



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