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Posted: 09 June 2010 at 15:15 | IP Logged Quote the met

Ian
As you used to work for the PRS then you'll know that
that there is more than one 'tariff'...
The tariff that the Cresset applies for its main hall (
as every room in a venue can be licensed seperately)will
be on a 'per event' basis as its impossible to forecast
how many events you'll do per year and at what ticket
price.
Its the same for every venue around the country. Look at
this way,if there's no gig on then the venue doesn't pay
PRS for the room.
Exactly same deal for venues in Cambridge and indirectly
as its a show cost - in theory the band are paying it but
will get it back eventually from the PRS - provided of
course they've written the songs they've performed.
In theory the venue is the winner butin reality most
venues don't actually charge a hire fee that really
covers their 'operating costs' - so they make it up on
drinks. Of course if its a young band with a young
audience then bar sales will
not be great.
This was in essence why The Cresset said that they were
'closing the theatre' although it was very badly worded.
What they meant to say was that they could'nt afford to
underwrite the shows that they were promoting themselves
'if' they didnt sell and they made a loss.
Obviously if every show was promoted by an outside
promoter with the venue getting a hall rental then their
risk is very much minimised.
Hopefully the figures I gave earlier will make people
understand the risks that promoters actually take. Yes -
its great when a show sells out and its a great gig but
having to sell 80% of your capacity simply to get your
money back is not career for the fainthearted. I remebmer
seeing a potential promoter on Dragon Den trying to get
funding to put on a muscial and when they gave the
figures to the Dragons then not one of them could
understand
the risk element involved and ducked out pretty quickly!


Edited by the met on 09 June 2010 at 15:27


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Posted: 09 June 2010 at 15:31 | IP Logged Quote iangillis

cheers steve... I didn't work on the hall venues, I was on pubs mainly with set tariffs...except the Met of course, that was handled by a 'senior' member due to 'sensitivity'.. ;)

you have a better memory than me too... I'd almost forgotten I'd worked there 5 years ago!

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Posted: 09 June 2010 at 16:08 | IP Logged Quote Richard Groom

iangillis wrote:

Richard Groom wrote:
 I just meant that for some gigs at least the problem isn't lack of buses as they can get enough people in who drive. I made a reasoned comment and you go OTT and get personal as usual, Ian.

it wasn't personal against you, it was actually agreeing with you that we're two completely different cities...using the blondie/manics gigs as collateral against the Fake That.

I'm sure the only way you could possibly take offence at what I said is if you class yourself as one amongst the Kev Lawrence worshipping Heart FM disciples.... which would make me truly sad as you seem a decent, very talented individual.



For the record, I have never listened to Heart FM.


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Posted: 09 June 2010 at 16:54 | IP Logged Quote iangillis

Delighted to hear.

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