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Posted: 08 June 2010 at 18:09 | IP Logged Quote Colgrin

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I'd feel for the local cabies if bus times were extended to say 2 or 3 am. They do a great job. At least the buses won't smell of vomit every day. Better to keep it that way, don't you think?


Cost of where I live to the city centre by bus - £1.50, and compared to Munich that's f**king expensive.

Cost of where I live to the city centre by taxi - £6.50

Why would taxis be worried? As i keep saying Munich has a fantastic public transport system, but there are still plenty of taxis.

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Posted: 08 June 2010 at 18:10 | IP Logged Quote Colgrin

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Let's not forget what Uncle Dave said yesterday. We'll be lucky to have any services at all soon. Spending money on coucil run music venues is gonna be a big no no. 


If uncle Dave and his gang of pant dwelling arse fleas get their way we wont have a country left at all.

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iangillis wrote:

one very, very big factor that no-one appears to have touched upon that's missing in this city yet present in almost every other major city of Pboro's size and above is decent accessibility. Public transport out of the city centre ceases to exist at 11.15pm, including weekends, on all routes, and always has done as far as I can remember.  As the arteries that carry the lifeblood of all city centres, bus routes are  very, very important, and as such play a big factor in determining when a city centre 'closes' in most peoples minds, in Pboro's case, everyone's conditioned to thinking 11.15pm.

Just looking at Cambridge's services (run by the same operator as serves here)) and the equivalent main Citi routes are running up to 2am on weekends.



Of course one thing not to overlook is that they are two very different cities and so the amount of money available to the different local authorities might be different - as might the rates of car ownership (lots of students in and around Cambridge). It might not be simply a case of our own city council not bothering: they may not have the cash or the usage of what services do exist to justify more buses. In any case, the Take That tribute act at the Cresset last Friday certainly seemed to pack the car park out. Anyone know if the gig was a sell out?


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Posted: 09 June 2010 at 09:40 | IP Logged Quote iangillis

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Of course one thing not to overlook is that they are two very different cities  the Take That tribute act at the Cresset last Friday certainly seemed to pack the car park out. Anyone know if the gig was a sell out?

Sweet jesus and the blessed orphans... no sh*t they are two very different cities...  Blondie and the Manics vs... i don't even want to say it...
http://www.cornex.co.uk/ccm/cornex/2010/blondie.en
http://www.cornex.co.uk/ccm/cornex/2010/manic-street-preache rs.en

to say the Cresset car park was full for this monumental assualt on decency is not a credit to this city.... more rather it was full of vehicles belonging to Kev Lawrence types, Heart FM devotees and trampy Hen groups doing it on the cheap.

As for the buses, I did say this cities people have been conditioned to assume the total shutdown of access to/from the city centre ceases at 11.15 every night.... I'm sure the cost of those chav offspring showers in Cathedral Square could have gone towards the cost of putting more buses on in the evening, squeezing an extra hour here and there...

 

 

 

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Posted: 09 June 2010 at 10:16 | IP Logged Quote Colgrin

If Peterborough's culture is summed up by heart fm then we are truly doomed!

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Posted: 09 June 2010 at 10:28 | IP Logged Quote Petemac

iangillis wrote:

Richard Groom wrote:


Of course one thing not to overlook is that they are two very different cities  the Take That tribute act at the Cresset last Friday certainly seemed to pack the car park out. Anyone know if the gig was a sell out?

Sweet jesus and the blessed orphans... no sh*t they are two very different cities...  Blondie and the Manics vs... i don't even want to say it...
http://www.cornex.co.uk/ccm/cornex/2010/blondie.en
http://www.cornex.co.uk/ccm/cornex/2010/manic-street-preache rs.en

to say the Cresset car park was full for this monumental assualt on decency is not a credit to this city.... more rather it was full of vehicles belonging to Kev Lawrence types, Heart FM devotees and trampy Hen groups doing it on the cheap.

As for the buses, I did say this cities people have been conditioned to assume the total shutdown of access to/from the city centre ceases at 11.15 every night.... I'm sure the cost of those chav offspring showers in Cathedral Square could have gone towards the cost of putting more buses on in the evening, squeezing an extra hour here and there...

 

 

 




YOU do something about it then.


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Ian
you come up with one very important piece of information
and then you completely let yourself down with the
remarks about the Take That Tribute band.
By doing this you've put yourself into the same catagory
of the very people you have moaned about before - ie the
'Its only s**t bands that come to Peterborough brigade'.
I've no idea what numbers the Take That tribute show did
but if it sold out then great because that's 850 people
that went to see a show at The Cresset, on the way out
they might pick up a leaflet with coming events and see
something else they want to book which might be a little
more credible in your eyes BUT the bottom line is,they
went and paid to see a show - this produces revenue for
the venue which in turn helps it to run which means that
promoters such as myself have a venue to bring bands to.
Lets be honest,does O2 Arena ask questions of the type of
act a promoter wants to put on? - of course they dont!!
£20 spent on beer and drinks by a Miley Cyrus punter is
just as good as £20 spent by a Led Zep punter.
The Cambridge Corn Exchange has its fair share of 'dodgy'
tribute bands playings there - they don't turn them away!
The more nights a venue is open then the better - and the
more varied a crowd it attracts the better.


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Posted: 09 June 2010 at 11:32 | IP Logged Quote Petemac

the met wrote:
Ian
you come up with one very important piece of information
and then you completely let yourself down with the
remarks about the Take That Tribute band.
By doing this you've put yourself into the same catagory
of the very people you have moaned about before - ie the
'Its only s**t bands that come to Peterborough brigade'.
I've no idea what numbers the Take That tribute show did
but if it sold out then great because that's 850 people
that went to see a show at The Cresset, on the way out
they might pick up a leaflet with coming events and see
something else they want to book which might be a little
more credible in your eyes BUT the bottom line is,they
went and paid to see a show - this produces revenue for
the venue which in turn helps it to run which means that
promoters such as myself have a venue to bring bands to.
Lets be honest,does O2 Arena ask questions of the type of
act a promoter wants to put on? - of course they dont!!
£20 spent on beer and drinks by a Miley Cyrus punter is
just as good as £20 spent by a Led Zep punter.
The Cambridge Corn Exchange has its fair share of 'dodgy'
tribute bands playings there - they don't turn them away!
The more nights a venue is open then the better - and the
more varied a crowd it attracts the better.


Hear hear!


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Posted: 09 June 2010 at 12:10 | IP Logged Quote PunkyRebelMedia

"Nurse, Mr McClelland's escaped from his room again!"

"Don't worry Doctor, the only time he goes out at night is to Irene Rae gigs so society's saved from his psychotic urges!"

While I have mixed feelings about whether tribute bands help draw people to see bands they wouldn’t otherwise have heard of, Gillis did have a very good point about the buses.

I can remember before I developed my love of walking (a 17 mile round trip to various pubs the other day, marvellous!) I often missed the end of a set at The Cresset as I had to get two buses home or spend a fortune on a taxi.

So Pete, how’s Gillis going to “do something about it then.” other than the normal route of contacting the council (something which Steve has already said he would do?)
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Posted: 09 June 2010 at 12:16 | IP Logged Quote iangillis

the met wrote:
Ian
you come up with one very important piece of information
and then you completely let yourself down with the
remarks about the Take That Tribute band.
By doing this you've put yourself into the same catagory
of the very people you have moaned about before - ie the
'Its only s**t bands that come to Peterborough brigade'. 

i don't agree with this; my slant was more aimed at the fact there's a Take That tribute act in the first place.... not to mention the hysteria and reverence placed on what's basically a bunch of minimum wage dancers in stark contrast to the inevitably nonchalent reaction to the news of what I'll be PM'ing you about shortly...  in political terms, Peterborough is sadly, a Heart FM safe seat. Just look at the JLS pollution of their playlist for instance.... no doubt kev lawrence will be spewing about the Take Fake act in his weekly 'column'  in the ET... ask anyone not from the city about it's musical legcy, and you'll always get the stock answer of JLS and some bloke once in the Prodigy... they've even forgotten about Andy Bell.

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