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Posted: 14 April 2010 at 16:10 | IP Logged Quote Juls77

Hmmmmm ok so i'm reading about the green party now and have got to the bit about drugs. They aim to legailise all recreational using other countries with legalised use having lower usage and crime related rate.

I've heard about this arguement and always thought that as a nation, England are a lot more stressed out than say the dutch so don't necessarily think it would be a good idea.  I like a good joint occasionally as much as the next person but think making it legal amongst other drugs would only give off the wrong message.

Bit like the all night drinking laws put in place to reduce drinking, if that's not oxymoronic I don't know what is

I wondered what everyone else thought ... ?



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Hic!

Dont.... Bogart

That

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Posted: 14 April 2010 at 19:49 | IP Logged Quote Hughster

I absolutely agree, and I didn't realise this was Green
Party policy -- worth looking into.

However, I've always been of the school of thought that
it should be referred to as "decriminalisation" in order
to emphasise the fact that the aim is only to stop
criminalising individuals doing nothing wrong against
anybody else, not to endorse any substance as "safe". The
bottom line is that it's completely wrong to use the
criminal justice system to punish individuals for putting
their health at risk solely to act as a social deterrant.

Just because all substances are decriminalised does not
mean that educational campaigns against misuse of those
substances have to stop; cf. tobacco and alcohol.

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Posted: 15 April 2010 at 21:01 | IP Logged Quote Elsie

Hi Juls. Good to see you back on here being controversial!

I agree. There's far too much unnecessary legislation in this country. The problem I suppose, is that the drugs laws are just a form of prohibition. It's a shame they banned high quality hashish and not blue WKD!

What really concerns me is this ongoing saga of the Government's independent drug advisers getting sacked or having to resign, because they dare to conclude that  people's recreational drug use is less harmful than their alcohol use.



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Posted: 18 April 2010 at 13:26 | IP Logged Quote blip

Juls. There's a lot of sense in what you say.

Hopefully our 'new' incoming government will let our scientists have some say on the matter to prevent unfortunate going underground escalation, which will increase the criminalising of the creative flower phases of our naturally curious youth culture.

[edited to convey clearer sense stress]



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Wouldn't legalisation take most of the profit out of it for the criminals to bother too much on an underground scale .. or am I just being naive and idealistic? hmmm

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Posted: 19 April 2010 at 12:28 | IP Logged Quote Hughster

Juls77 wrote:
Wouldn't legalisation take most of the
profit out of it for the criminals to bother too much on an
underground scale .. or am I just being naive and
idealistic? hmmm


Only if retailers weren't excessively regulated or the
substances weren't excessively taxed. Look at the
burgeoning criminal trade in alcohol/tobacco smuggling.

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Posted: 19 April 2010 at 18:54 | IP Logged Quote Elsie

Alcohol/ tobacco and even cannabis are much easier to find. Heroin and cocaine are a commodity made in heaven for smugglers and racketeers. If you ever watch that Michael Douglas/ Zeta-Jones film 'Traffic', or the Channel 4 serial it was based on - I reckon they come quite near to the bone on complicity, corruption.




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Posted: 21 April 2010 at 16:13 | IP Logged Quote blip

Elsie. Spot-on. Alcohol & tobacco of course are the major problems regarding our country's health. Though the revenue from taxation is also significant in providing health care. What an oxymoron!

Cannabis I think should be freely available, as it's the only comfort that really works for my dying aunt, which she prefers to clinically administered morphine.

Surely she should have her say and be respected for it on the matter.

My god, what sort of world are we living in that she should die a criminal? 

Even Queen Victoria used cannabis for her menstrual pains.



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