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Posted: 23 October 2009 at 08:24 | IP Logged Quote Colgrin

Did anyone see last nights quesioj time?

It certainly opened my eyes. There was me thinking that nick griffin was
a contemptible little turd who ran a party of in-breed genetically suspect
numpties whose whole political outlook was modelled on an incident
where their sweeites were nicked when they were at school.

I particularly was impressed how griffin demolished the other politicians
and ground them to dust.

Now I think the bnp are a party of towering intellectuals who want to put
other people, including immigrants whom they are particularly caring
about, at the top of any agenda.

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Posted: 23 October 2009 at 11:11 | IP Logged Quote Rodders

Colgrin, I admire your attempt at sarcastic humour, but if you find a chance can you post your real thoughts here? I think there's a great opportunity for discussion and debate on this, and we could bring some local relevance to the table too. Although I'm away on holiday for a few days so might not contribute as much as I'd like.

I wrote this on another forum:

I thought the show was mostly awful. The audience seemed to be enjoying a public lynching of Griffin and most seemed to arrive with their minds already made up and failed to listen to Griffin's answers. I'm not saying he told the truth but people should have been more dynamic in their questioning, because otherwise Griffin was able to trot out prepared answers.

Best question of the night: "Is the rise in popularity of the BNP a direct result of Labour's immigration policy?" Superb question that really threw a spanner in the works as it forced all panelists to comment on a subject that they'd rather divert at the BNP.

Warsi was superb. I've always voted Conservative until recently when I just haven't bothered. But her display reassured me that there was some intelligence in the Tories that could potentially deal with issues rather than just throw mud about.

I'm really looking forward to the General Election. I shall be reading up on all the parties and probably speaking to each of my local representatives to hear what they have to say.

Bonnie Greer had a couple of good moments, but there was a bit early on where I cringed at the poor comment she made. I'll try and find it.

Lib Dem guy - typical politician. Said the things that he's supposed to say, waved his hands around, then summed up his point by launching an attack on Griffin.

Jack Straw - who invited that guy on the show? What does he do? His only useful contribution was when he told Griffin that there was no legal reason why he couldn't talk about his Holocaust Denial. It was funny. Otherwise, the guy is a waste of space.
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Posted: 23 October 2009 at 17:56 | IP Logged Quote Petemac

The whole show was a bloody disgrace. The entire audience
and panel were surely picked for their anti BNP stance.
I've never seen so many ethnic 'minorities' in the QT
audience and I watch it regularly. Don't get me wrong,
Griffin is a complete tit and his demeanor was pathetic
throughout but surely there were other things that could
have been discussed? Postal Strike? Recession? Afghanistan?
more problems in Pakistan?

The BBC should be ashamed of themselves.

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Posted: 23 October 2009 at 22:13 | IP Logged Quote Colgrin

I rather enjoyed the programme. In the rather narrow remit of the range
of opinion that the tv show employs it was refreshing to see something a
little different.

Nick Griffin appeared on Question Time and instead of talking about
issues generally it ended up being a lynching session - I mean why is that
any surprise?

What little genuine "policies" the bnp has everyone knows their whole
persona is centred around sticking it to johnny foreigner, beyond that
they are pretty much clueless - the BNP are basically a one issue party.

I thought Bonnie Greer was quite good, she pointed out some glaring
irregularities in griffins opinions. I especially thought it pretty grinding
for nick - being challenged by a foreigner darkie.

The others were, well typical of the current mainstream politics. I detest
the tories, but I find them the most honest out of all the parties.

Out of all the torylabourlibdem single party system we seem to have at
least with the camerons of this world you know where you are with them.
You know they are going to screw over the man in the street and are
quite blatant about it. Labour and the lib dems try to claim that they are
different and that they have the poor workers in they heart, but you know
they're just lying.

That's why I find it amusing to read statements that their favoured
politician, whether it be tory, labour or whoever, is intelligent and
reluctant to throw mud around and eager to discuss issues instead.
Really?


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Posted: 24 October 2009 at 01:32 | IP Logged Quote blip

Merely an otherwise healthy political debate show debased by an unhealthy overfocus on bnp. NG dismally failed to make anything of it, and deservedly shot full of holes. It was embarrassing to watch. Lost all cred. Nobody’ll vote for them now. So in that sense, I suppose it was worth it.

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Posted: 24 October 2009 at 09:53 | IP Logged Quote PunkyRebelMedia

I didn't get to watch it until Friday night and didn't see that many more ethnic minorities than usual. As ever the audience was made up of members of conservative  and labour associations, politics students etc one bloke even asked a question that appeared to be anti-immigration

What was a shame about it was that David Bumblebee didn't move on to a different subject, concentrating mainly on race and the BNP, although being their first appearance these are the kind of questions that need clearign up. Jack Straw et al could do with answering questions directly though, but jacqui smith did a similar thing on "any questions?" bloody politicians!

Finally, Peter Hain and the ANL should hang their heads in shame, while I hate the BNP and all it stands for they are a legitimate political party and entitled to freedom of speech providing it doesn't lead to encitement. these people are still arguing about giving the BNP the oxygen of publicity best wake up because with 60 councillors and 2 MEPs being kept in the wilderness didn't do them any harm!
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Posted: 24 October 2009 at 11:12 | IP Logged Quote Colgrin

Whether there were more ethnics in the audience than usual or not, it
shouldn't matter.

The simple fact is, is that if you can't face your critics without whining
then you don't deserve to be in the public eye. Period.

Punky is absolutely correct. Odious and pitiful as the BNP are they should
be free to engage in public debates. If you don't think they do then you
really don't completely agree with democracy.

Democracy is about giving everyone a voice no matter how wrong you
think they are.

Besides, to ignore the british numpty party is to give them a sort of
martyr like legitimacy - they would claim that they are being repressed
because they have something too valuable to say. Getting them to talk
about themselves in public gets them out in the open to demonstrate
publicly what idiots they are - and I'm all for that.

[last paragraph added]

Edited by Colgrin on 24 October 2009 at 11:21


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Posted: 25 October 2009 at 10:55 | IP Logged Quote Petemac

Colgrin wrote:
Whether there were more ethnics in the
audience than usual or not, it
shouldn't matter.

The simple fact is, is that if you can't face your
critics without whining
then you don't deserve to be in the public eye. Period.

Punky is absolutely correct. Odious and pitiful as the
BNP are they should
be free to engage in public debates. If you don't think
they do then you
really don't completely agree with democracy.

Democracy is about giving everyone a voice no matter how
wrong you
think they are.

Besides, to ignore the british numpty party is to give
them a sort of
martyr like legitimacy - they would claim that they are
being repressed
because they have something too valuable to say. Getting
them to talk
about themselves in public gets them out in the open to
demonstrate
publicly what idiots they are - and I'm all for that.

[last paragraph added]


Sadly one fifth of the population would vote for them
according to this morning's Express.

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Posted: 25 October 2009 at 11:20 | IP Logged Quote Colgrin

Yeah, like the express is the epitome of quality information!

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